Ross Bleckner in conversation with artist and The Church co-founder Eric Fischl. The two had a lively conversation about Ross's extraordinary work featured in our Empire of Water exhibition, Here Is the Ocean, This Is Moonlight.

​Ross has been evoking emotion and elegy in his beautifully abstract work since the 1980s, and has addressed with great compassion the AIDS epidemic, loss itself, and the passage of time. He and Eric have known each other since the 1970s at Cal Arts, and have remained good friends.